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Cycling advocates warn there will be more angry drivers this winter
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You’d be surprised, data from the city of Toronto has shown that around 20% of summer cycling volumes continue throughout the winter. There are other studies online that are claiming even higher percentages. 20% is still substantial, given the amount of cyclists we see in the summer. That number is also inclined to rise if people have safe cycling infrastructure such as plowed bike lanes. There are other implications which also make the investment worthwhile and necessary, such as people with mobility devices who need to use the bike lane (as Taylor mentioned in this article), accessibility for transit, and for residents who live on streets with bike lanes now being required to do extra shoveling because they suddenly have a longer stretch of unplowed snow at the end of their driveway.
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Babe wake up, another Market Squared complaining about accessibility just dropped.Why do you keep pitting intersectional causes against each other? Active transportation, public transportation, and supports for people who are impacted by an affordability crisis all fall under the same umbrella of advocacy, and many people advocated or care about all 3 of these causes. It’s not cyclists’ faults we don’t have adequate shelters or public transportation, it’s provincial downloading of costs, and council’s decisions. Don’t blame your comrades who care about the same things you do.
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@Reasonable Person - you’re right, it is different, in the sense that they have much better year-round cycling infrastructure and actually plow their bike lanes so the 20% of people who continue to cycle in the winter can do that more safely. @Diane Limebeer actually no, that’s not how the law works. I encourage you to read the Highway Traffic Act, or at least the part that talks about cyclists being able to take the full lane when they deem it is necessary (for example when our council chooses to not plow bike lanes).
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Bike lanes were very much a thing 2 years ago. I encourage you to leave Guelph every now and then. There’s a lot more world out there.
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@nic k — He wrote about being angry with the mayor and council for now changing their minds to plow bike lanes, a win for accessibility, but he also:- suggested cycling advocates are misleading - blamed this decision as a cause for shelters not receiving adequate funding (most cyclists i know also want shelter space to be funded) - said bike lanes being plowed was an equity issue, suggesting groups like GCAT are virtue signallingHe’s holding council accountable..but at the wrong time and for the wrong reasons; they did the right thing for once.Adam is supposedly a Public Transportation advocate, but is bashing Active Transportation. That logic makes zero sense because these types of advocacy are two sides of the same coin. I agree we need better bus infrastructure, as do most cyclists, however bike lanes aren’t taking that away from him. This decision improves the options and accessibility for all Guelphites who rely on non-car centric transportation.
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This is immensely positive news for current and future renters in Guelph. This bylaw will help keep people in their homes by preventing bad-faith renovictions which are loopholes around rent control. Kudos to all who advocated, including the Legal Clinic of Guelph and Wellington County, Guelph & Wellington Poverty Elimination, Get Involved! Guelph, and The Ward Residents Association.
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Bollards statistically reduce the number of accidents, but also the severity of injuries if an accident does happen. You said it yourself, an accident at 60km/h is much different than one at 20km/h. I don’t know about you, but personally I’d rather have a broken arm than die.
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In the old days more people could actually afford a car.
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GuelphToday
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As important as this is, what’s more important is properly defining “harassment.” Your constituents expressing outrage over your displacement of unhoused constituents through the hastily passed Public Space Use Bylaw, or expressing the urgency of forthcoming motions around renovictions and a vacant home tax is NOT harassment. It’s accountability, which is desperately needed for policymakers in all levels of government.
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What I disagree with is your insinuation that the bike lane debate is about “enjoying winter cycling” or an act of “environmental idealism.” People generally bike in the winter because they NEED to, not to make some political or ideological statement. People will bike regardless, it’s just a matter of whether they will be safe(r) with bike lanes, or if they will be blocking traffic by taking the full lane as they are within their rights (and now forced) to do in accordance with the HTA. That benefits nobody, not even drivers.
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You’re seriously comparing the danger a car poses to a cyclist with the danger a cyclist poses to a pedestrian. Sorry Adam that’s a ridiculously dumb and misinformed comparison. When’s the last time a cyclist maimed and killed a pedestrian in Guelph? For a transit advocate, you sure have bad takes.
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@Rounabout They were still revenue-positive. The point wasn’t to be a cash grab, it was to increase safety. For example, Brampton decided to leave their cameras on, without ticketing people (per the provincial backtracking) and found that speeding has more than doubled since Ford’s cancellation of the program:https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/article/brampton-councillor-says-speeding-has-increased-since-speed-camera-ticketing-stopped/The other day, a pedestrian in Toronto got hit by a car directly beside the recently decommissioned speed camera:https://torontolife.com/city/a-pedestrian-was-hit-by-a-car-on-parkside-drive-last-night/Despite popular belief, it was never a cash grab. It was to reduce injuries, protect pedestrians, and save lives.
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@Albein the bus doesn’t go everywhere people need it to, either entirely or without inconvenient routes and transfers which require more time than people have. I have had destinations where Google Maps told me it would take the same amount of time to walk as it would to take Guelph Transit.This decision also impacts the accessibility of Guelph’s busses: if a bike lane isn’t plowed, the bus is often unable to stop directly along the curb which prevents those who use mobility devices, for example, from entering. I’ve noticed the same people who use mobility devices sometimes also travel in the bike lane, in case you have any doubt surrounding the connection between these modes of transportation and their levels of accessibility.
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@JohnFC I don’t understand your point. People can (and do) speed during and after turning on the roadway. There’s a reason that ASE camera was situated directly after the turn. If they were driving in a way that resulted in hitting a pedestrian without being able to stop in time, there’s a high likelihood they were speeding.
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It’s deplorable and embarrassing how council found it necessary to move into a closed meeting to have the discussion surrounding this decision to cut the funding for the daytime shelter, with the motion to do so put forward by Rodrigo Goller. The meeting about which of our councillors do and don’t support their unhoused or shelter-deserving constituents should happen infront of public, like the rest of council, so we know who we don’t want to vote for next year. It’s safe to say Councillor Goller falls into that category. Shame on you.
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As Andrea said in the article, “Winter cycling is only ‘unsafe’ when the city chooses not to maintain safe conditions.”
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Vehicles repeatedly running into these concrete barriers isn’t a reason for them to be removed. It’s a justification of why they’re there in the first place: to protect cyclists from bad drivers.
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@Two Riverss Well said. Cycling and transit advocacy are 2 sides of the same coin.
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@Reasonable Person - Have you been to larger cities? There’s around 3.11 million vehicles registered in Toronto, one of the largest cities in North America. You can have a car there. Many people choose not to, can’t afford to, or rely on other forms of transportation like the subway, walking, or yes even cycling since there are more bike lanes which get plowed in the winter. You can have a car though, there’s over 3 million of them.
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I question how this would affect “small landlords,” unless those landlords are renovicting their tenants involuntarily and without cause for the sole purpose of circumventing rent control. If they act in good faith, they won’t be impacted. Renovictions are generally carried out through large-scale or corporate landlords, including the “king of renovictions” Michael Klein who was behind the Brant Ave renoviction notices here in Guelph. Klein is connected to 20+ buildings across Ontario, holding approximately 680 units which have been impacted by his renoviction tactics. (source: ACORN Tenant Union)
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